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Charlie Cheswick July 3, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Agreed. While the rantings of caps-lock crazed conservatives whose sources are links to otherRead More ranting conservatives might make a compelling argument, consulting with your pediatrician is probably the wiser choice...
Laura July 3, 2014 at 01:26 pm
"Caps-lock crazed conservatives" ??? Come on now Charlie. That's not nice.
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Patricia Stack July 1, 2014 at 09:16 pm
This app is a MUST HAVE for college bound students and their parents! It simplifies and defines theRead More entire college application process! Thank you Ms. Portnoy!
Christopher Wendt July 17, 2014 at 09:08 am
Look at the acceptance and enrollment numbers...Hofstra is in trouble, has been in trouble, wellRead More ahead of the decision to make SAT scores optional. This decision was a purely defensive move, to get butts into seats. Declining enrollment that has infested LI public school districts is now spreading to the local college level. Dowling may not survive because of declining enrollment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The good news, if you want to call it that, declining local college enrollment will force a consolidation of the market, closing campuses and entire schools that cannot get butts into seats, and in the bargain, driving down the cost of a local college education. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As far as lowering quality, yes that will be inevitable for schools that ease-off entrance qualifications. But that is not bad, because a growing number of would-be students do not really need a college education, and others do not need a top-shelf college education. Think of the difference between lawyers who will eventually go to Harvard Law and then to Washington DC or Wall Street, as compared to lawyers known as ambulance chasers, and those engaged in matrimonial and real estate practices versus all those interested in the law but not qualified to become actual lawyers and who will become paralegals. Like that.
GM Roberts July 20, 2014 at 11:55 am
To think this action is lowering standards and/or promoting a non-competitive paradigm is missingRead More the point that tests like the SAT or ACT are a very specific and narrow type of measurement and they can't gage the many different types of learning and manifested knowledge. A predominantly right-brained person does not usually do well with these more left-brained skewed tests, but their intelligence and skills are as valuable in the real world outside of academia. The fact that there is an entire industry devoted to tutoring students to learn HOW to take these tests should be a warning that the test results are not necessarily an indicator of acquired knowledge in its broadest meaning. These schools are not lowering entrance qualifications, they are including other forms of achievement-based criteria that don't necessarily lower quality but broaden what it means to be "educated." This seems to me to be a better reflection of reality as there are many different types of intelligence and not all can validly be tested on paper.
Christopher Wendt July 20, 2014 at 09:26 pm
@ GM Roberts: this deals with admission decisions into a college, and, specifically, with the SATRead More and ACT, not any other tests "like the SAT or ACT". Prospective students may continue to submit SAT and ACT scores for consideration. Likewise, this is specific to Hofstra, not "these schools", and your assertion that Hofstra is not lowering entrance requirements fails on examination of the number of students who actually matriculate at Hofstra despite a much larger number of acceptance letters having been sent out. Hofstra needs students, not just to be accepted, but to enroll, attend, and pay tuition. Lowering their standards (by making submission of SAT and ACT scores optional) would be one convenient way to attract less qualified prospects who are not just using Hofstra as their safety school, but who will actually attend Hofstra when accepted. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Failing to get student butts into seats would put Hofstra at risk, as Dowling College presently is. If Hofstra does not increase its enrollment, then the discussion of lowering standards will have become purely academic, as others discuss building a roller derby rink or ATV course, or affordable housing at the site of the former Hofstra University.
EG June 26, 2014 at 03:40 pm
School isn't supposed to be day care. People need to pay for their own day care.
Debbie Forsyth June 27, 2014 at 01:17 am
@GW6----Teachers do NOT get paid for the summer. They get paid for a 180 day school year. The Dept.Read More Of Education decided to dole it out in 24 payments. Some schools in other counties in NYS have the option of getting paid in 20 payments or 24 payments. It's still the same annual salary divided by different numbers. Comes out the same either way. You get vacation time and it's part of your salary, not extra vacation pay, am I right?
Sticks60 June 27, 2014 at 03:05 pm
No matter how the money goes out they get paid in Smithtown, on average, $100,000 with a benefitRead More package of almost $40,000. So maybe there should be a little more time spent working in the summer and making it more of a full time job like the rest of us seeing they get paid like us.
Deborah B. June 12, 2014 at 09:03 am
... and I agree that college is not for everyone. That is yet another reason why almost myopicRead More emphasis on ELA and math (and associated testing) -- to the near exclusion of just about everything else and its drain on financial resources -- is detrimental to our children.
dan June 13, 2014 at 08:57 am
Re: so what is the real agenda behind cc? Answer " an education economy. United StatesRead More secretary Duncan when building " race to the top" created it with investors. It was spearheaded by investors not educators . Rather than investing in low income schools with race to the top funds, they sought a return on their investment. With the agenda being creating a economy . The first education economy in history. What we are seeing is a new historical precedent. There are billions to be made in this field of education.
Jane L June 14, 2014 at 08:54 am
The agenda has little to with increasing educational standards and everything to do with getting ourRead More children to conform. To have them learn to do things the same way and not challenge the status quo. It's like the patriot act of learning. It gets them comfortable with submission. Years ago, teachers had to teach to their students modality... Some kids are audio learners, some visual, some tactile. The Core forces teachers to teach one way and forces the kids to regurgitate it the same way with no allowances for thinking outside the box to solve/answer questions. That's just WRONG. Our children are individuals and not robots. I fully support increasing standards. This is not the way. And for those who want to compare us to China and Japan, why? We have enough suicides at NYU. I want well rounded children who aren't expected to be perfect. Please see Matt Kibbe's commentary on Freedomworksforme.org. Thx
peter s. June 9, 2014 at 03:15 pm
How about teaching them spelling and grammar? Geography and History would also be good for them toRead More learn. So many children complete school while lacking in basic skills.
Skinny June 10, 2014 at 07:57 am
I'd like to see CPR and AED training offered as an elective. I agree with Mark's suggestion that ALLRead More kids take business math. There are too many economically illiterates exiting HS and college.
Aidan June 11, 2014 at 11:23 am
STOP asking schools to do everything … their primary mission has already been compromised byRead More the insertion of every possible social remedy into the school day.
mari June 18, 2014 at 11:44 pm
the horror stories i could tell about this school would make your hair stand straight up.... aRead More sample my youngest son broke his foot when we contacted the school and asked if he could use the elevator we were told no, they wanted him to sit on his butt an climb the stair that way. Hi first day back still in his cast they had him sit in the back of his class when class was over he had to go through the desk he hit his foot on one of the desks an ended up back at the nurse she called me because he was complaining that his foot hurt and that he thought he had injured his big toe. I arrived at the nurses office she began to tell me she thought he was faking it and that his toe was fine, well when i looked at it it was blue and swollen i had to take him to doctors it was x-rayed and found to have been broken at that point we decided it would be better if he was given a tutor it took them 3 weeks to send one.
mari June 18, 2014 at 11:58 pm
The assistant principle was so rotten, she had us bring a note from his doctor to get the tutorRead More which of course was no problem, when i delivered the note she said it was written right that the dates included time that involved their spring recess and that it needed to be more specific so back to the doctors office i went they re wrote the note I brought it back and she again claimed it was not right. I asked her what she wanted them to write how they should phrase it returned to the doctors office an even the doctor thought she was being a little strange.. Returned to the school and again it was not what she wanted. This time my husband said enough lets go and talk to someone in charge well we went to the high school and spoke to the person who was in charge of attendance showed her the doctors letters and she said any and all of them were acceptable she called Mrs Bloom asked her what her problem was. When my husband and i went back to give her the first note she had a fit because we had gone to the high school... I think it's sad that the kids are better behaved then the teachers lolol
EM Resident June 19, 2014 at 07:06 am
I am so sorry Mari -my heart hurts just reading your stories!
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Dawn Urbanek June 10, 2014 at 10:01 pm
We have to make people aware that our State is run by public employee Unions and we need court casesRead More like today which ruled that the California Teacher Tenure rules are unconstitutional so that we can change laws and vote people out of office who do not represent the interests of the public who pay the taxes.
Spencer James July 11, 2014 at 04:19 pm
Something that is interesting to note is that high school grads are going to four year universitiesRead More and studying subject that isn't marketable. While on the other hand you have people getting vocational training at vocational schools that essentially guarantees them a job out of school that will make them 'x' amount of money. So it isn't that college degrees are worthless, some are. It is also said that sometimes trade school is the right choice! Spencer James | <a href='http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com/' > http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com/home.html</a>
Spencer James July 11, 2014 at 04:20 pm
Something that is interesting to note is that high school grads are going to four year universitiesRead More and studying subject that isn't marketable. While on the other hand you have people getting vocational training at vocational schools that essentially guarantees them a job out of school that will make them 'x' amount of money. So it isn't that college degrees are worthless, some are. It is also said that sometimes trade school is the right choice! Spencer James | http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com
Lucianna May 23, 2014 at 01:39 pm
Glad budget passed for our children and their teachers, however we are being choked by taxes weRead More might not be able to go to Barnum anymore, but at least they can get more smart boards.
Scott Eckers May 19, 2014 at 10:33 am
I am writing here to ask for your support on Tuesday as I seek a position on the East Meadow BoardRead More of Education. Some of you may know me from helping with the district's musicals and concerts or from the various non-profit activities with which I am involved. I believe in a first-class education here; I am an educator in the Syosset Central School District and would like to see some of East Meadow's failing policies fixed. My experience as a public school teacher and my training as a school district administrator put me in a unique position to help the Board move in a positive direction for our families. I hold two Master's degrees and will be finishing an Ed.D program this year. Thank you and please vote tomorrow at your local elementary school.
Theresa Flora May 27, 2014 at 11:40 am
I heard city teachers talking about a third party candidate. This isn't shocking. LiberalsRead More cannot, under any circumstances, vote for a prolifer. It really all boils down to that one issue. The whole charter school debate will be the stated reason they can't back Astorino, but some know better. I hate the idea Astorino scrubbed his charters school ideas from his website, because they weren't gonna vote for him anyway. Stand firm by your beliefs, Astorin. No waffling. If you're gonna go down, go down proud.
Theresa Flora May 27, 2014 at 11:41 am
Oh, and I'm sure Cuomo is gonna do right by the union. Those assessments will get untied to evalsRead More one way or another.
Theresa Flora May 28, 2014 at 07:20 pm
Yo, "Say No": here comes Ravitch. When she came to Fox Lane to speak, I was against it.Read More Hated it. For SO many reasons. Called her a book shill. And now I see a NY Daily News piece that she's being courted by Working Families. I'm not shocked. They (the Left) need...no, NEED, someone besides Cuomo, and definitely besides Astorino. He's too Tea Party-ish. C'mon! Where are you?? You have all these blog posts.... the poetry thingy...probably cursive too.... Come back!!! Please tell me I've been right all along.
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J April 30, 2014 at 10:17 am
Yik yak is awesome, its the kids who are using it that are not. There is no issue with the app justRead More the people using it.
Mels Ditties April 30, 2014 at 11:21 am
J...What is the positive objective of the app?...
Krista Cole April 30, 2014 at 01:30 pm
J, Awesome or not, it's being "used" for a really bad purpose. I say to the school: Get aRead More firewall and block the ports of Yik Yak--just like you block hackers, people. Then, hire a Java guy, who will come in and give a talk to the science classes on Java development and hold a contest for creating a Java application that does the most good to solve a REAL community issue. Hold a MySkoolTechAwards Show and sell tickets to pay for prizes and for the network firewall router. ;-) DONE.
ergodic May 10, 2014 at 01:01 pm
For those who missed it, the above Kindergarten story was mentioned in a recent Esquire article.Read More Following are some excerpts: “…, a writer at HigherEd and education expert, highlighted the most egregious example of it all this week. Attributing it to the rigors of standardized test reform, a New York school got rid of an annual show put on by Kindergartners. When asked why it was cancelled, the school’s principal and four teachers wrote that it didn’t prepare the children for college and career”. (Refer to http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/louis-ck-education) The author of the article continues: “We have joy deficit.”, and “We’re not taking the time to teach our kids a love of learning. We’re not treating our kids as people. We’re grooming them as tools for a future economy.”; ”…-and this generation of kids is getting the worse of it”. Conclusion: there’s not much support for the Elwood decision.
ergodic May 12, 2014 at 05:05 pm
Diane Ravitch’s blog for 05/12/2014 briefly reviews a Washington Post article: “6Read More reasons to reject Common Core K-3 standards”. The general criticism is that the CCSS for grades K-3 is developmentally inappropriate. Among other guidelines, the WAPO article states “Children need play in school now more than ever. They need teachers who are skilled facilitators of play…”. The blog ends with a reference to the recent Elwood kindergarten decision: “... (referring to the WAPO article) read the other mistakes that CCSS made in writing standards for K-3. Then you understand how foolish it was for a kindergarten class to cancel the annual class play because the children needed more time for rigorous academic studies”.
brookhavenconfucius May 12, 2014 at 05:14 pm
erogdic, WHAT ELSE could you expect, coming from a LESBIAN, PROGRESSIVE ALLEGED, ED-GEECATIONRead More ACTIVIST ? Certainly this touchee, feelee GOBBLELY GOOK !
South Side High School in Rockville Centre is among the best on Long Island, according to new rankings. (Patch file photo)
brookhavenconfucius May 20, 2014 at 01:30 pm
How is it in your gated community, there, Joe ? Or do you own a business that depends upon IllegalRead More Immigrants ?
Lorraine DeVita May 20, 2014 at 01:31 pm
too many here not enough headed back..
joe thrapp May 20, 2014 at 03:14 pm
learn baby , learn. earn baby, earn. And the nomination for the next President of the United StatesRead More is former Governor Jeb Bush and his new first lady Columbia Bush a native of Mexico. And the nomination for the next Vice President of the United States Senator Marco Rubio the son of an illegal immigrant from Cuba. This team will replace the administration of President Obama the son of a Kenyan Citizen. I depend on the welfare of immigrants in waiting for my future prosperity and safety here in these United States. Education for all and all of those who just think they have an education.
TJ Eckleburg April 24, 2014 at 04:55 pm
Well, Bob. Let me correct you. Paranoid Psycho Theresa Flora did NOT "call me out." IRead More called her out. Please keep track.
eatingdogfood April 24, 2014 at 07:10 pm
No, Eckleburg you called names, she called you out. Go away now.
TJ Eckleburg April 24, 2014 at 08:26 pm
"eatingdogfood" oh well... that explains everything about you.
Billy Joel applauded and smiled during at the “The River of Dreams: A Billy Joel Tribute Concert” in Glen Cove. Credit: Glen Cove School District
teena April 11, 2014 at 07:05 pm
so sick of hearing everyone blaming the parents. the show ended, the parents were all leaving (toRead More get back to work!) and billy joel was sitting right by the exit. all the parents had to pass him. the 'mob' that bothered him for autographs was teachers who brought out their soloist along with their parents. he left because half the auditorium was leaving!
TJ Eckleburg April 11, 2014 at 07:34 pm
lindy, get off my lawn is a mentally ill teabagger.
Gabe Gonsalves April 14, 2014 at 10:34 am
Billy Joel is a class act.......I know him from my younger days. The man is true to his roots.
Photo: @EARizzo57 Twitter
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Liz, my point is a reality about home values. Not a stretch as you suggest. I know a principal whoRead More invited local realtors in for open houses to demonstrate how well the school was doing to offset the negative publicity portrayed by media. I saw firsthand parents who relocated to another school based on test scores. Parents don't trust realtors, they look on Greatschools.com and see a test score. Newspapers and news outlets report test scores, they don't take the time to break down why they schools score low let alone why they score high. Most parents won't spend the time to interview or do a walkthrough for a public school before attending.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Liz, not to beat a dead horse, do your own research about test scores and home values. I think youRead More will be convinced.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm
Disgusted, you are talking about teacher union leadership. IMO Tenure and teacher unions are killingRead More the quality of American education. Be accountable or get out of the profession.
Rob April 1, 2014 at 01:22 pm
Very insightful article...I believe this is whats known as trolling. My interaction with the PatchRead More is really waning. Since when is it acceptable to upload pictures of twitter posts and call it journalism?
yeahitzme April 6, 2014 at 02:18 pm
We all agree what a vital impact teachers have on their students and all of our children...whoRead More surely are the future of society. We all want what is best for all and there is no one exact road or method to get there...adapting and being flexible depending on any situation is a skill that that garners best results...finding what works and building upon that will most likely have positive results. And yes...mushy is definately not the desired method of instruction and yes...those tutoring bills can add up quite fast with the going rate...Unfortunately...my child had one of those no nonsense teachers and that was the subject I was paying those tutors for...A child that shuts down...can't learn...that approach did not work for them. I am sure there is a comfortable middle ground where both firm and supportive instruction can coexist successfully for both teacher and student. I think it comes down to a respect from and for the teacher! We all know it only takes a short moment to tear something down that may have taken years to build up....Teaching is not easy in any regard...but the rewards are great...as Marion accidentally found out on Facebook when feedback from long past students confirmed...she had gotten things "right" in her instruction along the way... Great effort from all involved is required to achieve success in most cases..albeit that natural prodigy genius that is very rare to come by! May we ALL be successful...and joyful...whichever road we choose!
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 05:52 pm
Excellent points! Going too far in either direction has consequences...mostly negative. RespectRead More to me must be earned or at the very least in some cases retained , title or position, alphabet soup before or after a name , does not automatically grant respect. The PERSON earns the respect ...... ie- .the OFFICE of the president deserves respect despite WHO is sitting in the chair, the Person who is IN the job needs to earn the respect OF the title.
Andreea D April 24, 2014 at 08:36 pm
No, they are not opting out. The Common Core Standards for 4th and 3rd grade are pretty reasonable.Read More Last year my first child got high 4s for both of them, and they will do well probably this year both of them.
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
Concerned Parent March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/03/17/how-common-core-standards-kill-creative-teaching
Case closed April 23, 2014 at 08:01 pm
Parents are being told to attend tutoring for common core so they may help their children. If theRead More wheel ain't broke Stop trying to fix it. Case closed
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
brad livingston February 5, 2014 at 08:50 am
SEAFORD opening on a two hour delay...LOL....better charge the no show teachers with a snow dayRead More excussal.........love to see who shows so they can be publically thanked for dedication and those that stayed in bed charged a day.
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concerned resident February 3, 2014 at 07:55 am
levittown schools are open!!! this is a joke every dist. is closed around us- i hope they have aRead More good plan to get the kids home safe!!!!!!!!
elizabeth baptiste February 3, 2014 at 09:10 am
How much snow is expected? So much for an early spring.
Karen February 3, 2014 at 10:33 am
Enough winter snow! Where's Global Warming when we want it back on a temporary basis?
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