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Mangano Attacks Unions in Op-ed

Democratic committee chairman slams piece, calls it "absurd."

County Executive Ed Mangano late last week penned an op-ed in Newsday that takes direct aim at unions.

Mangano, in his first term as county executive, argued that they're partly to blame for the government's financial mess.

From Newsday (subscription required):

Right now, their contracts guarantee employees annual salary increases, longevity pay, free health insurance and educational allowances that do not require any education.

Over the life of the current contracts, growth of total benefits was projected to exceed the Consumer Price Index by more than $500 million. Together with other archaic contractual requirements that drive up overtime, these contracts are simply unaffordable.

In the piece, Mangano also writes that a large percentage of Nassau's $310-million deficit for 2012 is "driven by labor compensation increases."

Detractors, however, point out that Mangano voted in favor of all the contracts he now trashes. 

"I read it this morning, and what struck me was not only did he vote for all these agreements, but he made it difficult for Tom Suozzi to negotiate tougher agreements," said Jay Jacobs, the Nassau County Democratic Commitee Chairman. "Now he sings a different song and he wants everyone to believe he's genuine. It's absurd."

In an interview with Patch, Jacobs added that Suozzi threatened furloughs, but Mangano was against it.

John Durso, the president of the Long Island Federation of Labor was no friendlier to Mangano.

"It's easy to blame the workforce," Durso said in an interview this afternoon. "The truth is we have given back. But more importantly, I'd love to know how firing 700 people and threatening thousands of other workers will help the Nassau economy."

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dooleyman October 10, 2011 at 08:06 pm
the dooleyman states that is article is about mangano and the fact is mangano is not able to do his job he is out of his element
Adam October 27, 2011 at 04:26 am
The cat is out of the bag! 9/11 allowed Police and Firemen across this country to turn terror into their profit. They will rue the day their management pulled this scam for years to come. Mayors and city managers, across the country, will have no other choice but to revert to the mean and it will cost every public employee going forward - retired or currently active!!!
Rosemarie Stauber October 27, 2011 at 11:59 am
Adam: I am positive that our police and fireman have never thought that the horrific events of 9/11 should be used to "turn terror into their profit" - your words. They use this awful event. filled with the loss of precious life and continued sickness and death of those that worked on the pile, to try to effectively do their job in this post 9/11 world. In my opinion, you are way off base with regard to the police and firemen. Note that no one in my family, including myslef, are employed in these vital areas, so I have no personal agenda. I'm just a citizen who appreciates the hard work that those in these professions do - and continue to do so in this post 9/11 world.
Catherine Mary October 27, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I do have people in my family who are in these jobs, admittedly not in Nassau County. But as a struggling NC tax payer I have to agree that the NCPD could do more with less (not necessarily beat cops, but there are ways to save outside of personnel), and that they are paid more than necessary for people who only have to work for 20 years. Perhaps their pensions and retirement benefits should not kick in until they are 55 like other county employees. And maybe that number needs to be raised to 62 since people are living longer these days and therefore pensions are being paid for more years than in the past. And people are working longer anyway. Perhaps the cops (and all county employees) post retirment health benefits should be along the lines of veteran's benefits. Although it may cost more for such a system, I don't know. And it is time to hire those civilian employees and stop paying cops to do desk work.
Robert J. Pape, Jr. October 27, 2011 at 01:04 pm
"Adam" : I know 343 members of the FDNY who didn't quite "profit" from 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself for defaming their courage and character. Be a man and apologize for your blatently insensitve and idiotic remark!
Derp October 27, 2011 at 01:06 pm
I'll just leave this here.
10 Arrested in $1 Billion L.I.R.R. Disability Scheme http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/ten-arrested-in-1-billion-l-i-r-r-disability-scheme/
Nassau Taxpayer October 27, 2011 at 01:09 pm
Bingo. Get it all back -- with treble penalties. This is a RICO case, without a doubt.
Nassau Taxpayer October 27, 2011 at 01:10 pm
Had you limited your comment to the "terror industry" and Rudy Giuliani, it would have been credible.
Strug Lynn October 27, 2011 at 01:21 pm
Interesting, but the LIRR is not a county job. Apples and oranges as far as this thread goes.
Joseph October 27, 2011 at 01:22 pm
10 Arrested in $1 Billion L.I.R.R. Disability Scheme
By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM Ten people, including a doctor and a former UNION PRESIDENT were arrested early Thursday and charged in a major fraud scheme in which hundreds of Long Island Rail Road workers made false disability pension claims costing a federal agency an estimated $1 billion
Joseph October 27, 2011 at 01:23 pm
All of the people who received money fraudulently should be arrested and forced to repay with interest and penalties
Jon L. October 27, 2011 at 01:48 pm
Adam, WOW! That is quite a statement, a false statement at that.
The PDCN officers were well paid prior to that awful Tuesday in September of 2001 and continue to be well paid after. I will not rehash what others have said about the difference in the level of service between PDCN and NYPD. The fact remains that being an officer for PDCN was a lucrative job before 9/11 and continues to be one after 9/11. As an aside, I really don't think the PD and FD did much to "turn terror into their profit." 343 members of the FDNY, 71 law enforcement officers from more than 5 different agencies and 8 EMT/Paramedics from the voluntary private agencies did not profit from terror. Even after the reported mastermind of the attack Usama bin Laden is dead the body count continues to climb nearing 1000 more deaths from exposure to various carcinogens and respiratory irritants at the former WTC site. I also don't think that they "turn terror into their profit" either. As pointed out by Nassau Taxpayer if you pointed at private industry and the former Mayor your post would have been more reasonable. Outside of that, it's just plain wrong.
Jon L. October 27, 2011 at 01:54 pm
BTW: Before I get accused of something, I AM NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
Never have been, not interested in being one. Full disclosure that good enough for you Tideline?
NomoreBS October 27, 2011 at 01:58 pm
The problem in Nassau County is that we are so incredibly top heavy with executives and their assistants, the assistants assistants', and so on. If all of these positions were consolidated and the people who hold these positions were held to a higher standard and actually DID the job their title describes, the county would be in the black. It is not the civil service employees who are to blame. It is the executives who are using their power to hire their family, friends, etc. Just take a look at Kathleen Rice's office. Their is so much underhanded nonsense that goes on its not even funny. They enjoy the county benefits too. What about when someone who was in the private sector their whole lives, gets hired by one of their "boys" at age 50, works until 55 and walks away with a pension and health benefits for the rest of their lives? This is the master plan of all of these big wigs. This is common practice in Nassau County.
Look at NUMC for example. They are threatening layoffs to balance the budget there. At this time, they have 16 VP's all making between 175,000 and 450,000 a year. They have a CEO who makes probably 500,000+. He has his own private counsel in his office, on the payroll. His private counsel's wife has a do nothing job in his office and makes 100,000+ a year. This is only the tip of the iceberg as far as the waste that goes on there. But they want to layoff housekeepers and clerks to save the hospital.
NomoreBS October 27, 2011 at 02:07 pm
They force nurses to work short, putting patient care at risk. Nurses, who are the backbone of the hospital get continously abused by this administration. Why shouldn't a nurse who for 25-30 years, has worked herself/himself to the bone taking care of your loved ones on so many levels, be able to retire in comfort and enjoy all Nassau County has to offer without struggling. Instead their service to the residents of Nassau is downplayed and made out to seem that they have done nothing to deserve a modest pension and/or health benefits. All the while, the CEO continues to hire people at outrageous salaries and then cries that the Union is bankrupting the hospital. This is a disgrace. Why does the public not see that it is THE EXECUTIVES and their cronies that are ruining this great place to live? Its so obvious, its ridiculous.
Strug Lynn October 27, 2011 at 02:16 pm
The arrogance of the admins at NUMC knows no bounds.
Strug Lynn October 27, 2011 at 02:17 pm
Even after an audit nothing was done and no consequences were felt. Contractors are being overpaid to do jobs that civil service employees should have at a much lower rate, but lay off the little guys to try to force the union into consessions. The hospital has been in the black for the last two years. This is notable because that never happened before. And now the way you reward the employees that helped to make that happen is to can them before the holidays. Very nice.
Joseph October 27, 2011 at 05:24 pm
Railroad employees were eligible to retire as early as AGE 50, after serving 20 years,
James M. October 27, 2011 at 06:16 pm
Anna you keep jumping on here and saying that not all Unions and inferring you get paid less than a private employee for your work for the same number of years of experience. I find this very hard to believe. IMOHO the only time a union employee is paid less than private is when they are switching careers and it is their first year on the job.
James M. October 27, 2011 at 06:20 pm
"Fought hard for fair contracts" Please don't insult our intelligence by saying the contracts are "fair" or please define your version of fair since these people get paid more than private by almost double when you take benefits into account and have almost zero possibility of being fired from their job so there is no risk to the employee.
James M. October 27, 2011 at 06:28 pm
Jon L. why is it that at any given time I can find two NCPD cars sitting next to each other if you are not working with a partner?
His point he was trying to make is you claim your job is so difficult yet the calls for police response and dangerous situations is much higher in the city and they get paid half of what you do? And your partner caomparison is ridiculous since We have one $150K cop going to where two $60K officers could go with the same effect for less money. Just like a cop to say that someone who disagrees with them is a moron. As if they completed multiple degrees before becoming a cop.
Jon L. October 27, 2011 at 06:43 pm
Mr./Ms. Marshall- Thanks for reviving something that was addressed over a month ago.
"Just like a cop to say that someone who disagrees with them is a moron. As if they completed multiple degrees before becoming a cop." If you took the time to read further you would see that Tideline and I already had an exchange about this. LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR IN ALL CAPS: I'M NOT A COP, NEVER HAVE BEEN A COP, DON'T PLAN ON BEING ONE! It's not my job! I made the point that if two sector cars from the NYPD went to the same call that two sector cars from PDCN go to it cost about the same. It was more about the the main point that I was trying to make that the Union has no say when a class goes in, it is the Acting PC and the CE who decide when to put a class in. Tideline and I got into a sidebar about something else when it came to the body count and body armor argument. If you take a look at some other posts by people who actually are on the job you would see that there is a difference in the level of service that the general public wants from the Nassau Cops versus the NYPD. That should speak to the effect of an NYPD officer and a PDCN officer. I'm not a cop but now you are the moron.
James M. October 27, 2011 at 07:44 pm
Matteo have your job skills increased in that 12 years or do you have the same skills?
James M. October 27, 2011 at 08:40 pm
TO be a nudge and nothing more you could use the Union argument that the "CEO negotiated that salary" and now they have to live with it. That's always the Union argument. Well the taxpayers are saying the same thing about cops and teachers and the Union is turning a blind eye to these problems because they are in their favor. I've worked my hump off for years and a piddling 401K to show for it. NO PENSION. I make less than Union and have fewer benefits. But they want to cut lets say (I have no idea) 5% off the union wages and benefits or cut 20 non union jobs the union always says cut the non-union jobs. Why don't you have sympathy for those NON-Union employees that will be fired for Union greed?
James M. October 27, 2011 at 08:43 pm
IS it proven that contractors cost more or that they cost more in the short term but once you figure pension and benefits into the mix it works out to be cheaper to use a contractor than higher new union employees?
James M. October 27, 2011 at 08:50 pm
Yeah Jon Like your diatribes are so important to me from a month ago I will remember them. Deal with the issues and stop calling people morons when you have no idea who they are or what education they have. Your comments make you seem less intelligent than you probably are.
James M. October 27, 2011 at 08:57 pm
Bronx or Brooklyn?
James M. October 27, 2011 at 09:03 pm
Just as a point the person calling for the sprinkler should be charged $2500 for the call on their property insurance. That should be the rule. If you call for nonsense you get charged for the call. There needs to be a legitimate reason for the call.
Jon L. October 27, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I don't care who you are or where you were educated, a tool from Harvard is still a tool.
Tideline October 28, 2011 at 12:06 am
Jon L. you full disclosure is just fine. Too bad more people on here don't follow your lead. Your post of 9:48 was both accurate and excellent.
Your disclosure did not hurt, right ? LOL.
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It's (was) Piesanos
Susan June 18, 2013 at 08:35 pm
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Mary-Lynn Karr Bonda-Riva June 19, 2013 at 06:27 am
I say bring Starbucks back!!
GMS June 12, 2013 at 09:52 am
3 large tables, of 42 people, yes, 3 tables 22 bottles!
Rick Price June 12, 2013 at 03:36 pm
Mike and Yvette are two of the nicest, kindest people I know and have always been helpful and fairRead More to the community and community events. While I am very sorry you had such a bad experience, I can't wait to hear their side of the story.
Frank T June 13, 2013 at 12:04 pm
"He just took $600 from our students funds" What does that mean? Either you handed himRead More money from the students fund or it was stolen. I would like to hear the owners side of the story.
Ivan Launer June 8, 2013 at 11:06 am
There are many people behind the scenes who have worked for months in advance to make this eventRead More successful. Due to business and personal commitments, it is impossible to get them together again on short notice.
Ivan Launer June 8, 2013 at 11:07 am
Unfortunately, the cancellation stands. Work for the 8:00 AM opening begins early in the morning.Read More The grounds at Speno Memorial Park were waterlogged, which could have resulted in slipping hazards and extensive property damage. If it's any consolation, we're as sorry about the cancellation as the people who would have attended the event.
marianne krause June 10, 2013 at 10:30 am
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