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The Things Learned at Nassau County Informational Meetings

Most people seem to think that Nassau County Informational Meetings are as useful as hearing one hand clapping, but that is not truly the case.

Recently I attended at “informational meeting” at the East Meadow Public Library hosted by Legis. Norma Gonsalves mainly in regards to conveying accurate and up-to-date data about the restructuring and consolidation of the Nassau County Police precincts.

It appears that do to our current fiscal crisis, we must trim responsibly otherwise we will need to cut with haste. This to some is known as "evolution."

The current plans call for us to whittle eight precincts down into four and to have more P.O.P. stars (Problem Oriented Police) on the streets. Four of the current eight precincts would become Community Policing Stations and still have some officers (2) there, but would not be processing criminals. The plan as presented seemed to have more kinks, and missing details, than one would think at this stage.

Many residents were in attendance as well as local business owners, members of the police department, the PBA, the local fire department, visiting dignitaries and the press. I bet that by the time this blog is printed that the Patch and the Herald had 2 articles each about the intricacies of the plan and that the different legislative committees in Mineola had cast their initial votes.

Before, during and after the meeting I did learn some interesting tidbits about this and some other subjects that might be off this initial topic, but that still might affect our local residents, that I decided to share.

NUMC is thinking of closing 50 bed spaces to make room for an “ Outpatient Drug Program” which would increase the amount of serious drug users brought to our community seeking treatment and possibly bring them into an uncomfortable proximity to high school students leaving school and sporting events in the immediate area.

The Nassau County Jail is acting as a foster location to felony convicted Suffolk County inmates due to the Suffolk County Jail’s overcrowding issues.

One officer in attendance stated that one particular crime in one particular Nassau County Precinct rose over 230 percent in the last six months.

An unmarked Nassau County Sherriff’s car and two on duty Nassau County Motorcycle Cops delivered pizzas from Umbertos of New Hyde Park to the airport destined for the Super Bowl. Seems to others that NC Police Chief Skrynecki thinks a possible solution to the fiscal crisis is to compete with Fed Ex and UPS too.

When I moved into Nassau County we had just fewer than 4,000 law enforcement officers protecting us. That number is currently less than 2,500 and they want to decrease that current number by over one hundred before 2013.

Although high-ranking police officials seem to hate the acronyms, Nassau County Law Enforcement Programs have included P.O.P., P.E.P. (park enforcement patrols) and P.I.P. (police interaction program), but never P.U.P.

I did learn some other snippets that were non-related to the police department, cutbacks and crime. Now some readers have accused me of Jambalaya-ing my blogs, but the topic here is “The Things Learned At Nassau County Informational Meetings.”

Nassau County is considering a trolley and track system to go from Winthrop Hospital area to the NUMC area instead of a mini bus system, because too many people surveyed did not know what a Jitney was or could not pronounce it properly.

Many towns in Nassau County have a mayor, but not East Meadow.

One Pennsylvania College has placed “the morning after pill” in a campus vending machine. The cost is $25. I think that the problem here is that someone will need to have a heck of a lot of quarters.

There have been reported cases of mononucleosis amongst NFL players from kissing the Super Bowl Lombardi trophy.

A woman can be lactose intolerant and still breast-feed. Also an allergy to nuts has nothing to do with being tolerant of people with diminished mental capacity.

Originally they were called undertakers, now they are referred to as Funeral Directors. Soon we might be referring to them as “afterlife coaches.”

The only reason conjoined twins (Siamese twins) from Minnesota went to England was so that it gave the other girl a chance to drive.

A popular New Hyde Park restaurant serves goat brain masala and thrives. A popular New Hyde Park restaurant that served steak and sushi went out of business early last month.

East Hampton Village supermarkets and stores banned plastic shopping bags. I guess “going Green” means killing more trees, now.

Here it is! Almost all the updates, info, enlightenments, notes, scoops and knowledge accumulated on a variety of subjects that came to light within the walls of the packed basement of the East Meadow Public Library at the Nassau County Informational Meeting the other evening. I hope some of this helps you as much as it did me.

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paul February 16, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Who even knows if Bill was there? He may just be telling people that so the stuff he writes sounds more credible. Bill admits to just making it fun. So the FACTS as he states may not even be FACTS. He wants to be heard about all topics. I think the column should be called "Bills Fun, Fluff and Jambalaya"... Those are all words that Bill used. Just pointing that out....
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Mr. Dave, The question remains , do YOU really think the cost of the correction officers that might get injured , or ill, or exhausted , or overworked was EVER factored into the amount Suffolk County pays Nassau County??? Do you have even 1 close friend that is a corrections officer to know what they deal with? I did not mention money , because it did not come up at the informational meeting , just the fact that when a Suffolk prisoner gets released , it is across the street from EM high school and now they get to try to find their way home to Suffolk county. Which I also did not go into. Plus I do not NEED to inform my readers of anything , this is MY blog. I CHOSE to pass on some interesting Facts. You can print YOU blog the way you want! As you said it was OLD news to you.
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 03:05 PM
Dear Dave , I never assumed you were not at the meeting , I easily deduced it from the statements you made . A child could have done it. If someone asks me "who is rumored to have given us our homework assignment?" I would deduce you weren't in class to see the teacher do it , or not paying any attention. Which was it for you? You still never contradicted me to say you were present and where you sat or stood. Can't hate me because I was right, again
paul February 16, 2012 at 03:17 PM
To Bill AKA Professional Citizen Bill: Dave is right on the money about your FACTS or lack there of. You use analogies that make no sense at all. I think your coffee is brewing. Wake up and smell it !
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 03:26 PM
To Paul- The Fact of this blog is that I sat between retired EM School Superintendent -Mr Leon Campo and Past EM Legislative Candidate -Pat Maher. Both of whom I highly respect. Both of whom posed a question. Is this really the fact you wanted to challange me on? The point that you wrongly and constantlly insinuate that I lie, is beginning to really irk people.
paul February 16, 2012 at 03:40 PM
To Professional Citizen Bill: We are so glad that you have stated that you sat between two people that you respect. The FACT of where you sat is not the question. It is as you have pointed out, the only fact is that your blog is "Fun, Fluff and Jambalaya"... Others too have insinuated that you stretch or diminish the FACTS as you see fit. I do not think it is beginning to irk people, it is getting them to think again....
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Yo Paul You clearly stated "Who even knows if Bill was there? He may just be telling people that so the stuff he writes sounds more credible." which in fact infers that i am lying. I proved beyond a reasonible doubt that i was there, with 2 verifiable sources , as well as Leg . Gonsalves herself. And the only thinking YOU are getting them to do , is that they think you should harrass someone else. I personally think Your coffee is just plain spoiled.
Susan February 16, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Hate? Why would you use the word "hate"? No one said you were right either, except you. Deduced? Assumed? Same difference. Accused is probably the more accurate word. You accused me of not being there. And my comments actually had nothing to do with that and everything to do with your omission of information and leaving people with the wrong impression. Also the mixing of your facts and your fun. How can one tell the difference? Perhaps, you need to print a disclaimer. I actually have a few close friends who are or have been corrections officers, some even at Riker's, not that that's any of your business. Your example about a Suffolk prisoner being released is ridiculous. Nassau prisioners are released right across from the high school as well. There hasn't been any trouble with that, to my knowledge, since I've lived here. Don't make trouble where there is none. True that this is your blog and you can write whatever you want but when you present a blog based on factual information, as you did this time, it behooves you to present the information and not omit facts that could cause confusion or leave people with the wrong impression. Blog or no blog. You put yourself out there by writing a blog in the first place. I am allowed to have MY opinion. That is what this comment section is for. At least I commented on the actual information in the blog and did not make this personal or insulting like others have.
Jon L. February 16, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Your welcome. I don't know how you find the time.
paul February 16, 2012 at 04:20 PM
To Professional Citizen Bill: It is your coffee.... If it is spoiled it is yours not mine.... You are not being harassed. Your statements are being challenged... We have every right to challenge or debate any comments made here.
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Dear Dave, You sir, are correct about others getting personal and insulting ....and if you feel i did that to you , i would like to apologize- that was/is not EVER, EVER my intention. I have a friend who is a correction's officer on disability and is so because a "transferred foster inmate" pushed him from behind down a flight of stairs. Now he is on something like 50% of his salary, no more overtime and having a tough time making ends meet.I have others who work in corrections as well. So you like me CAN see the downsides to acting as a foster jail .(BTW- Foster families -do get money for what they do too, which is why i specifically used that term in the blog) One officer there told a story just after the meeting ended of a released "suffolk county transferee" harrassing people at the bus stop on Carmen Ave and that "this was not the first time" . (couldn't verify it, so i did not print it then) that and the fact that the blog would have looked like a novel instead of a my blog.
paul February 16, 2012 at 04:23 PM
To Bill: The "Yo Paul" is very unprofessional of you. It shows your lack of humility.....
paul February 16, 2012 at 04:31 PM
To Bill: An inmate is an inmate is an inmate. It does not matter if he was transferred in or not. Do you think corrections officers are safer with a Nassau inmate rater than a Suffolk inmate? No difference.... You obviously have no idea how the system works. Once again off the wall remarks.
Susan February 16, 2012 at 04:40 PM
I did feel you were getting a little personal which I was not doing at all. You write a blog and people comment. You have to expect that and not be so defensive. I don't think anything I said was so terrible. It was an information/impression issue. And like your blog, it was MY opinion. I am sorry about your friend but, unfortunately, I'm sure there have been other incidences at the jail with our own Nassau County inmates as well. Too many probably. It is the nature of the beast. When you chose to become a corrections officer, you should know what you're getting yourself into. As far as seeing the downside of fostering criminals, I don't really care where they come from orginally. Their address doesn't have anything to do with their behavior (for lack of a better word). They are criminals regardless. I do know of one incidence where a convicted felon from Nassau almost had to serve his time in Suffolk due to extenuating circumstances. I'm sure it happens more frequently that we know.
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Anyone can challange my statements ....without being petty or PAUL-rty. I will stand behind my statements , but I am human too. That means that with proper proof to back it up , someone can correct me like Susan and Cathy have. They accomplished this nicely and with tact . Calling me an unprofessional 'Professional Citizen " is an attempt to hurt my Personal feelings. Why not try "amateur Blog Typer" or "incompetent True American" ?
paul February 16, 2012 at 04:54 PM
To Bill: If you want to be called an "amateur Blog Typer" or "incompetent True American" ... Its OK with me.......... Your words not mine....
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Dear Dave I am sorry about my friend too and like you stated, unfortunately, I'm sure there have been other incidences at the jail with our own Nassau County inmates as well. However there is no reason to add to that for a couple of bucks, in my opinion. Same reason i won't rent my unused garage to someone wanting to use it as a chop shop. too many potential negatives, I don't look for more problems that the ones i am already responsible for. But the point of the blog was "Things Learned at Nassau County Informational Meetings" which I and many others did. Some due to this article. But going indepth hereis not my responsibility either. Thanks and sorry YOU felt attacked. I kind of did too,like when you assumed i hadn't read Newsday (which i do/did) and when you said " managed to repeat a lot of rumored information designed to create controversy " (nothing was rumored or designed to stir the pot) Thanks
Susan February 16, 2012 at 05:23 PM
I will leave it to Paul to criticize your latest analogy. Chop shop? It's illegal to rent your garage to a business in a residential neighborhood. Poor example. Nassau County needs money and if they can make some by renting space to Suffolk County, they are obviously going to do it. If you are so against it, why not join the Jail Advisory Committee and do something about it? Also, I never asked for an "in depth" analysis of anything. It was more like one or two sentences to avoid confusion. I still stand by my comments and I am entitled to my opinion. At least I know how to express it without being insulting. I can see you definitely have the need to have the last word so I'm expecting yet another rebuttal.
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 05:25 PM
To Paul An rabid dog is a rabid dog is a rabid dog. It does not matter if I was getting some bucks so he was transferred in to my house or not. Why would you foster a rabid dog and endanger your family when it is not absolutely necessary? I , unlike you, obviously have every idea how the system works. My house=my danger ..... someone elses danger should stay in their house!!!! And yes i compared a Suffolk convict to a rabid dog to make an analogy plus this might be my NIMBY in action. (shame on my P.C.-ness)
paul February 16, 2012 at 08:59 PM
To Bill: The detention facility has all types of FOA since you probably never heard or saw this acronym before it is "For Other Authority". For example: Arrested in Nassau and waiting for an extradition hearing to another state like New Jersey. etc. You do not have all the facts... It is a correctional facility to house or as some say warehouse prisoners. That will be what they do whether you personally like it or not.... The jail has been in East Meadow since February of 1957 way before you. Did it bother you when you moved here? Doubt it. Then why would it bother you now? You haven't got a clue.......
Bill Alderman February 16, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Paul It bothers me Now because since i have moved in.... the extrance and exit has gotten closer to the High school. The bustop where prisoners wait to leave has gotten closer to Hempstead Turnpike. It has expanded twice in size. For a while it housed the DHS (incase you don't know that would be the Department of Homeland Security, where I volunteered) We now get paid to house prisoners that were arrested and convicted and supposed to be housed in Suffolk, but are here because of overcrowding. And it bothers my neighbors too. ( I would also mention the EMHS PTA and EMPAC, but it is unfair for me to talk for official organizations i am no longer a part of, but the members were upset for the same reasons, when I was a member. You are the one withOUT a clue.
paul February 16, 2012 at 11:55 PM
To Bill: Thank you for your reply..... But your remarks and responses are childish at best........ All you do is write "Tip for Tap" when someone disagrees with you. Facts are Facts no matter how you twist them.... Are you now a spokesperson for your neighbors? Hope they have the facts... Yes the County jail is where it is and will probably remain. If the school or other locations have issues they need to be addressed by them to the jail/sheriffs office/corrections/local political figures etc.. I know you are trying to get the last word but I want readers to see the last word of fact not Bills fiction...
Michael Ganci (Editor) February 17, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Guys, let's calm it down a bit, or I will close the comments on this blog post. Thanks.
paul February 17, 2012 at 01:53 PM
For additional information on the police precinct issue: http://www.longislandpress.com/2012/02/16/an-inside-look-the-nassau-police-precinct-debate/
paul February 19, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Just to let you know the Nassau County jail has more than nassau residents housed within. From a Patch article: Pennsylvania State Police have arrested a New Hyde Park man for allegedly raping a 15-year-old female. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Frank R. Neglia, 46, allegedly provided alcohol to an underage female during a sweet sixteen party at the Neglia residence in Reflection Lakes Equinunk, Wayne County on July 23-24, 2011. He was arrested in Nassau County on violation of a probation and extradited to Pennsylvania on February 13.
Tom Dawgs February 20, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Thank you Mr. Ganci
Michael Ganci (Editor) February 20, 2012 at 06:15 PM
No problem. That's what I am here for.
Susan February 25, 2012 at 03:25 PM
Bill, just an fyi ... one less Suffolk inmate in your Nassau jail. He was from Deer Park. http://eastmeadow.patch.com/articles/man-found-dead-in-jail-cell
Rebecca March 08, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Bill, I don't understand why you think East Meadow would have a mayor, or that towns have mayors. Long Island Towns have Supervisors. Here's how Long Island government works: 1) Nassau County has 2 Cities (Glen Cove and Long Beach) which have mayors. Suffolk County has no cities. 2) Then there are myriad incorporated Villages (e.g., Mineola, Freeport, Westbury) which all have mayors. 3) Towns (on Long Island) have Supervisors. Nassau County has 3 Towns: Hempstead, North Hempstead, and Oyster Bay. Suffolk County Towns are Babylon, Huntington, Smithtown, Brookhaven, Riverhead, East Hampton, and Southampton. 4) Any Long Island area that is neither a City nor a Village, is an unincorporated hamlet that is part of one of the Towns. And that includes East Meadow. Hope this clears things up!
paul March 08, 2012 at 04:30 AM
To Rebecca: WOW, you are right on target. Great explanation. If we ever have one, you can count on my vote.. ;o) The Things Learned at Nassau County Informational Meetings. Doubt he learned that at the meeting....

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